Officers seized nearly 350 marijuana plants and arrested two people after raiding a North Carolina house they said was used only to grow the plants.
The Times-News of Hendersonville reported Wednesday that the Henderson County Sheriff's Office said 27-year-old Geoffrey Bleichner and his 24-year-old wife, Megan Bleichner, are charged with seven drug charges, including trafficking of marijuana.
Sheriff's spokesman Capt. Charlie McDonald said the residence had been remodeled to handle a large marijuana growing and processing operation.
McDonald said the house contained grow lights and tables. The marijuana had an estimated value of nearly $833,000.
Comments
- whistlereese on 10/15 11:36 AM
So a young couple goes to jail, no telling if they had kids, the equipment is hijacked by govt officials never to be used again, and someone else will setup shop somewhere nearby and grow the same and sell the same. Marijuana will always be grown, no matter what you do to prevent it. Does this not make sense to our officials?
Spend more on keeping drunk drivers off the road. Spend more on curbing alcoholism in our state. - delbert on 10/15 01:28 PM
Just another example of how law enforcement chooses to enforce the easy stuff to distract us from the fact that they are doing nothing to deter REAL crime.
- Donald on 10/15 02:56 PM
What a waste of time. Imagine the infusion of cash into the economy is we just legalised it and taxed the heck out of it. Imagine the savings in law enforcement, etc.
- Steven on 10/16 03:59 PM
You all are just pissed because you have to go find a new dealer.
- Dane on 10/16 04:39 PM
Election year always brings big busts to rally the base. No suprise with the economy in shambles that people find alternate means of income. Who can blame them. History will look back at America’s “War on Drugs” the same way we view the Salem witch trials today. Living in North Carolina, I’m dissapointed the only place I see job growth is in law enforcement. Thanks to the Henderson County Sheriff’s Department for wasting our tax dollars on modern day witch hunts.
- Amy on 10/17 01:59 PM
No. I don’t smoke marijuana. But I just want to know how many peoples lives have been devestated by the Gov. operated corner ABC Store. When are we going to rise up and do something!
- Manuel on 10/17 09:18 PM
It is about time we start doing some real law enforcement work around here. Any thing illegal is a crime and those who commit the crime are crimionals, kuddos to the Sheriff Office and I hope to see the continuation with ALL illegals in the State, they are also criminals since they broke a law(inmigration laws) As it is, they are also costing big $$$ to the state in gang related crimes, using our hospitals, schools, jails and other social services while exporting their earnings back to their own countries.
- amazing on 10/18 12:25 AM
Gosh the producers of WhiteOwls, Dutchmaster.
Swisher, Black n Milds etc will see a drop in sales It amazes me to see how many blind people there are in NC I work in a c-store I see the OLD and young purchase blunts Its not just people in blue jeans & T-shirts. I see well distinquished men and women that drive jags beemers and porsches They are white,black,latinos,Indians,and many imigrants legal and illegal. If they had this operation Im sure They had alot of customers who helped them build it with cash how else could they have the money to operate it. I bet the po’s are having a high time for free!!!!! By the way Manuel it is criminals - jeanie on 10/18 01:15 PM
Im glad they got them..Here is honist people working to make a living and what do we get !! Not much.But the ones that grow and see the drug lives high on the hog with all name brand clothes on and a gold tooth lol..I say let them rot in jail..Or kids dont need the crap !
- Laura on 10/18 09:02 PM
My fiancee was hit by a drunk driver yesterday...and i hear that marijuana may become legal for people with certain illnesses… what is this world coming too? I wish law makers would focus on the important stuff like arresting drunk drivers so innocent people wouldn’t get hurt.
- josh on 10/19 02:38 AM
Did you know, it is estimated that hemp has approximately 25,000 uses? From food, paint and fuel to clothing and construction materials, hemp is used. There are even hemp fibres in your Red Rose® and Lipton® tea bags. And several cars made today contain hemp.
The oldest relic of human industry is a piece of hemp fabric (canvas) found in ancient Mesopotamia dating back to approximately 8000 B.C. The oldest surviving piece of paper was made over 2000 years ago in China and was also made from hemp fibre. In 2500 B.C. the pharaohs used hemp in the construction of the great pyramids.
Hemp was so important in England in the 16th century that King Henry VIII passed a law in 1553 which fined farmers who failed to grow at least one quarter acre of hemp for every 60 acres of arable land they owned. There was even a time in history for over 200 years when you could pay your taxes in America with hemp. In 1850 there were more than 8,300 hemp farms in the United States.
- josh on 10/19 02:40 AM
The first diesel engine was designed to run on vegetable oils, one of which was hemp oil. In the 1930s Henry Ford produced an automobile composed of 70 percent hemp plastic which also ran on hemp based fuel and oil. In 2001 the “Hempcar” circled the North American continent powered by hemp oil.
The paintings of Rembrandt (1606- 1669), Vincent Van Gogh (1853-1890) and Thomas Gainsborough (1727- 1788) were painted primarily on hemp canvas, often with hemp oil based paint. Over 50 percent of all chemical pesticides sprayed are used in the cultivation of cotton. Hemp is eight times stronger than cotton and more air-permeable. Hemp can grow vigorously (up to 16 feet) in 100 days without the use of harmful pesticides and herbicides… healthier for your skin and the environment.
One acre of hemp can produce as much raw fibre as 4.1 acres of trees. Pulping hemp for paper would produce a strong paper that lasts incredibly long and doesn’t yellow with age. Also, using hemp as a raw source for paper would eliminate the need to cut down our dwindling old-growth forests which contribute to climate control and clean the air we breathe.
- josh on 10/19 02:45 AM
The real reason Cannabis has been outlawed has nothing to do with its effects on the mind and body
MARIJUANA is DANGEROUS. Pot is NOT harmful to the human body or mind. Marijuana does NOT pose a threat to the general public. Marijuana is very much a danger to the oil companies, alcohol, tobacco industries and a large number of chemical corporations. Various big businesses, with plenty of dollars and influence, have suppressed the truth from the people.
The truth is if marijuana was utilized for its vast array of commercial products, it would create an industrial atomic bomb! Entrepreneurs have not been educated on the product potential of pot. The super rich have conspired to spread misinformation about an extremely versatile plant that, if used properly, would ruin their companies.
Where did the word ‘marijuana’ come from? In the mid 1930s, the M-word was created to tarnish the good image and phenomenal history of the hemp plant...as you will read. The facts cited here, with references, are generally verifiable in the Encyclopedia Britannica which was printed on hemp paper for 150 years:
* All schoolbooks were made from hemp or flax paper until the 1880s; Hemp Paper Reconsidered, Jack Frazier, 1974.
* It was LEGAL TO PAY TAXES WITH HEMP in America from 1631 until the early 1800s; LA Times, Aug. 12, 1981.
* REFUSING TO GROW HEMP in America during the 17th and 18th Centuries WAS AGAINST THE LAW! You could be jailed in Virginia for refusing to grow hemp from 1763 to 1769; Hemp in Colonial Virginia, G. M. Herdon.
* George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and other founding fathers GREW HEMP; Washington and Jefferson Diaries. Jefferson smuggled hemp seeds from China to France then to America.
* Benjamin Franklin owned one of the first paper mills in America and it processed hemp. Also, the War of 1812 was fought over hemp. Napoleon wanted to cut off Moscow’s export to England; Emperor Wears No Clothes, Jack Herer.
* For thousands of years, 90% of all ships’ sails and rope were made from hemp. The word ‘canvas’ is Dutch for cannabis; Webster’s New World Dictionary.
* 80% of all textiles, fabrics, clothes, linen, drapes, bed sheets, etc. were made from hemp until the 1820s with the introduction of the cotton gin.
* The first Bibles, maps, charts, Betsy Ross’s flag, the first drafts of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution were made from hemp; U.S. Government Archives.
* The first crop grown in many states was hemp. 1850 was a peak year for Kentucky producing 40,000 tons. Hemp was the largest cash crop until the 20th Century; State Archives.
* Oldest known records of hemp farming go back 5000 years in China, although hemp industrialization probably goes back to ancient Egypt.
* Rembrants, Gainsboroughs, Van Goghs as well as most early canvas paintings were principally painted on hemp linen.
* In 1916, the U.S. Government predicted that by the 1940s all paper would come from hemp and that no more trees need to be cut down. Government studies report that 1 acre of hemp equals 4.1 acres of trees. Plans were in the works to implement such programs; Department of Agriculture
* Quality paints and varnishes were made from hemp seed oil until 1937. 58,000 tons of hemp seeds were used in America for paint products in 1935; Sherman Williams Paint Co. testimony before Congress against the 1937 Marijuana Tax Act.
* Henry Ford’s first Model-T was built to run on hemp gasoline and the CAR ITSELF WAS CONTRUCTED FROM HEMP! On his large estate, Ford was photographed among his hemp fields. The car, ‘grown from the soil,’ had hemp plastic panels whose impact strength was 10 times stronger than steel; Popular Mechanics, 1941.
* Hemp called ‘Billion Dollar Crop.’ It was the first time a cash crop had a business potential to exceed a billion dollars; Popular Mechanics, Feb., 1938.
* Mechanical Engineering Magazine (Feb. 1938) published an article entitled ‘The Most Profitable and Desirable Crop that Can be Grown.’ It stated that if hemp was cultivated using 20th Century technology, it would be the single largest agricultural crop in the U.S. and the rest of the world.
- josh on 10/19 02:48 AM
THE CONSPIRACY
Andrew Mellon became Hoover’s Secretary of the Treasury and Dupont’s primary investor. He appointed his future nephew-in-law, Harry J. Anslinger, to head the Federal Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs.
Secret meetings were held by these financial tycoons. Hemp was declared dangerous and a threat to their billion dollar enterprises. For their dynasties to remain intact, hemp had to go. These men took an obscure Mexican slang word: ‘marihuana’ and pushed it into the consciousness of America.
MEDIA MANIPULATION
A media blitz of ‘yellow journalism’ raged in the late 1920s and 1930s. Hearst’s newspapers ran stories emphasizing the horrors of marihuana. The menace of marihuana made headlines. Readers learned that it was responsible for everything from car accidents to loose morality.
Films like ‘Reefer Madness’ (1936), ‘Marihuana: Assassin of Youth’ (1935) and ‘Marihuana: The Devil’s Weed’ (1936) were propaganda designed by these industrialists to create an enemy. Their purpose was to gain public support so that anti-marihuana laws could be passed.
Examine the following quotes from ‘The Burning Question’ aka REEFER MADNESS:
* a violent narcotic.
* acts of shocking violence.
* incurable insanity.
* soul-destroying effects.
* under the influence of the drug he killed his entire family with an ax.
* more vicious, more deadly even than these soul-destroying drugs (heroin, cocaine) is the menace of marihuana!Reefer Madness did not end with the usual ‘the end.’ The film concluded with these words plastered on the screen: TELL YOUR CHILDREN.
In the 1930s, people were very naive; even to the point of ignorance. The masses were like sheep waiting to be led by the few in power. They did not challenge authority. If the news was in print or on the radio, they believed it had to be true. They told their children and their children grew up to be the parents of the baby-boomers.
On April 14, 1937, the Prohibitive Marihuana Tax Law or the bill that outlawed hemp was directly brought to the House Ways and Means Committee. This committee is the only one that can introduce a bill to the House floor without it being debated by other committees. The Chairman of the Ways and Means, Robert Doughton, was a Dupont supporter. He insured that the bill would pass Congress.
Dr. James Woodward, a physician and attorney, testified too late on behalf of the American Medical Association. He told the committee that the reason the AMA had not denounced the Marihuana Tax Law sooner was that the Association had just discovered that marihuana was hemp.
Few people, at the time, realized that the deadly menace they had been reading about on Hearst’s front pages was in fact passive hemp. The AMA understood cannabis to be a MEDICINE found in numerous healing products sold over the last hundred years.
In September of 1937, hemp became illegal. The most useful crop known became a drug and our planet has been suffering ever since.
Congress banned hemp because it was said to be the most violence-causing drug known. Anslinger, head of the Drug Commission for 31 years, promoted the idea that marihuana made users act extremely violent. In the 1950s, under the Communist threat of McCarthyism, Anslinger now said the exact opposite. Marijuana will pacify you so much that soldiers would not want to fight.
Today, our planet is in desperate trouble. Earth is suffocating as large tracts of rain forests disappear. Pollution, poisons and chemicals are killing people. These great problems could be reversed if we industrialized hemp. Natural biomass could provide all of the planet’s energy needs that are currently supplied by fossil fuels. We have consumed 80% of our oil and gas reserves. We need a renewable resource. Hemp could be the solution to soaring gas prices.
- josh on 10/19 02:51 AM
THE WONDER PLANT
Hemp has a higher quality fiber than wood fiber. Far fewer caustic chemicals are required to make paper from hemp than from trees. Hemp paper does not turn yellow and is very durable. The plant grows quickly to maturity in a season where trees take a lifetime.
ALL PLASTIC PRODUCTS SHOULD BE MADE FROM HEMP SEED OIL. Hempen plastics are biodegradable! Over time, they would break down and not harm the environment. Oil-based plastics, the ones we are very familiar with, help ruin nature; they do not break down and will do great harm in the future. The process to produce the vast array of natural (hempen) plastics will not ruin the rivers as Dupont and other petrochemical companies have done. Ecology does not fit in with the plans of the Oil Industry and the political machine. Hemp products are safe and natural.
MEDICINES SHOULD BE MADE FROM HEMP. We should go back to the days when the AMA supported cannabis cures. ‘Medical Marijuana’ is given out legally to only a handful of people while the rest of us are forced into a system that relies on chemicals. Pot is only healthy for the human body.
WORLD HUNGER COULD END. A large variety of food products can be generated from hemp. The seeds contain one of the highest sources of protein in nature. ALSO: They have two essential fatty acids that clean your body of cholesterol. These essential fatty acids are not found anywhere else in nature! Consuming pot seeds is the best thing you could do for your body. Eat uncooked hemp seeds.
CLOTHES SHOULD BE MADE FROM HEMP. Hemp clothing is extremely strong and durable over time. You could hand clothing, made from pot, down to your grandchildren. Today, there are American companies that make hemp clothing; usually 50% hemp. Hemp fabrics should be everywhere. Instead, they are almost underground. Superior hemp products are not allowed to advertise on fascist television. Kentucky, once the top hemp producing state, made it ILLEGAL TO WEAR hemp clothing! Can you imagine being thrown into jail for wearing quality jeans?
The world is crazy...but that does not mean you have to join the insanity. Get together. Spread the news. Tell people, and that includes your children, the truth. Use hemp products. Eliminate the word ‘marijuana.’ Realize the history that created it. Make it politically incorrect to say or print the M-word. Fight against the propaganda (designed to favor the agenda of the super rich) and the bullshit. Hemp must be utilized in the future. We need a clean energy source to save our planet. INDUSTRIALIZE HEMP!
The liquor, tobacco and oil companies fund more than a million dollars a day to Partnership for a Drug-Free America and other similar agencies. We have all seen their commercials. Now, their motto is: ‘It’s more dangerous than we thought.’ Lies from the powerful corporations, that began with Hearst, are still alive and well today.
The brainwashing continues. Now, the commercials say: If you buy a joint, you contribute to murders and gang wars. The latest anti-pot commercials say: If you buy a joint...you are promoting TERRORISM! The new enemy (terrorism) has paved the road to brainwash you any way THEY see fit.
There is only one enemy; the friendly people you pay your taxes to; the war-makers and nature destroyers. With your funding, they are killing the world right in front of your eyes. HALF A MILLION DEATHS EACH YEAR ARE CAUSED BY TOBACCO. HALF A MILLION DEATHS EACH YEAR ARE CAUSED BY ALCOHOL. NO ONE HAS EVER, EVER DIED FROM SMOKING POT!! In the entire history of the human race, not one death can be attributed to cannabis. Our society has outlawed grass but condones the use of the KILLERS: TOBACCO and ALCOHOL. Hemp should be declassified and placed in DRUG stores to relieve stress. Hardening and constriction of the arteries are bad; but hemp usage actually enlarges the arteries...which is a healthy condition. We have been so conditioned to think that: Smoking is harmful. That is NOT the case for passive pot.
Ingesting THC, hemp’s active agent, has a positive effect; relieving asthma and glaucoma. A joint tends to alleviate the nausea caused by chemotherapy. You are able to eat on hemp. This is a healthy state of being.
{One personal note: During the pregnancy of my wife, she was having some difficulty gaining weight. We were in the hospital. A nurse called us to one side and said: ‘Off the record, if you smoke pot...you’d get something called the munchies and you’ll gain weight.’ I swear that is a true story}.
The stereotype for a pothead is similar to a drunk, bubble-brain. Yet, the truth is one’s creative abilities can be enhanced under its influence. The perception of time slightly slows and one can become more sensitive. You can more appreciate all arts; be closer to nature and generally FEEL more under the influence of cannabis. It is, in fact, the exact opposite state of mind and body as the drunken state. You can be more aware with pot.
The pot plant is an ALIEN plant. There is physical evidence that cannabis is not like any other plant on this planet. One could conclude that it was brought here for the benefit of humanity. Hemp is the ONLY plant where the males appear one way and the females appear very different, physically! No one ever speaks of males and females in regard to the plant kingdom because plants do not show their sexes; except for cannabis. To determine what sex a certain, normal, Earthly plant is: You have to look internally, at its DNA. A male blade of grass (physically) looks exactly like a female blade of grass. The hemp plant has an intense sexuallity. Growers know to kill the males before they fertilize the females. Yes, folks...the most potent pot comes from ‘horny females.’
The reason this amazing, very sophisticated, ET plant from the future is illegal has nothing to do with how it physically affects us…..
…POT IS ILLEGAL BECAUSE BILLIONAIRES WANT TO REMAIN BILLIONAIRES!
ps: I think the word ‘DRUGS’ should not be used as an umbrella-word that covers all chemical agents. Drugs have come to be known as something BAD. Are you aware there are LEGAL drugstores?! Yep, in every city. Unbelievable. Each so-called drug should be considered individually. Cannabis is a medicine and not a drug. We should DARE to speak the TRUTH no matter what the law is.
- josh on 10/19 02:59 AM
And I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they shall be no more consumed with hunger in the land, neither bear the shame of the heathen any more.—Ezekiel 34:29
“The Lord said unto me, ‘I will take my rest and I will consider in my dwelling place like a clear heat upon herbs.’ “—Isaiah 18:4-5
What is the Word of God on the Cannabis plant?
The hemp plant (scientific name: cannabis, slang: marijuana) is one of the many useful herbs “yielding seed after its kind” created and blessed by God on the third day of creation, “and God saw that it was good.” (Genesis 1:12) He gave hemp for people to use with our free will.
God said, “Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed which is upon the face of all the earth.…To you it will be for meat.” … And God saw everything that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. (Genesis 1:29-31) The Bible predicts some herb’s prohibition. “Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times, some shall … speak lies in hypocrisy … commanding to abstain from meats which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. (Paul: 1 Timothy 4:1-3)
The Bible speaks of a special plant. “I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they shall be no more consumed with hunger in the land, neither bear the shame of the heathen any more.” (Ezekiel 34:29) A healing plant. On either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare 12 manner of fruits, and yielding her fruit every month; and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. (Revelations 22:1-2) A gift from God.
How was cannabis used in Biblical times and lands?Cannabis was used 12 ways: clothing, paper, cord, sails, fishnet, oil, sealant, incense, food, and in ceremony, relaxation and medicine. For so the Lord said unto me, “I will take my rest and I will consider in my dwelling place like a clear heat upon herbs. For afore harvest, when the bud is perfect and the sour grape is ripening in the flower, he shall cut off the sprigs with pruning hooks and take away and cut down the branches.” (Isaiah 18:4-5)
What about cannabis today?Hemp today has thousands of uses. Modern technology has devised many new uses for the hemp plant&emdash;like biomass energy, building materials, fuel, plastic and so on. Hemp is ecological and its seed is among the best food crops on Earth. Selected varieties produce flowers that provide an herbal relaxant and a spiritual tool. Its herb is used globally as medicine.
Does the Bible discuss drugs?Alcohol is the only drug openly discussed in the Bible, so it must serve as our reference. Wine is drunk during religious occasions such as Passover &emdash; the Last Supper of Jesus and His disciples. It remains a sacrament in modern church services.
Jesus began his public life by miraculously turning water into wine at the Wedding at Cana (John 2:1-10) when the reception ran out. The Bible distinguishes between use and misuse. It says, Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish and wine unto those that be of heavy hearts. (Proverbs 31:6-7) but Woe unto them that … follow strong drink; that continue until night, till wine inflame them! (Isaiah 5:10)
Yet the simple joys of drinking were also sung. He causeth the grass to grow for the cattle, and herb for the service of man: that he may bring forth food out of the earth; And wine that maketh glad the heart of man and oil to make his face to shineth. (Psalm 104:14-15)
“Do unto others as you would have others do unto you."Did Jesus speak about choice?He said not to criticize other people for their habits. “Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; that which cometh out of the mouth defileth a man.” (Mat. 15:11) The apostle Paul wrote, I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth anything to be unclean, to him it is unclean. … For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost. (Paul: Romans 14:14,17)
Did He speak of government?Jesus said to keep church and state apart. “Render therefore unto Caesar the things which be Caesar’s and unto God the things which be God’s.” (Luke 20:25) As we have seen, it was God, not government, who gave man the herbs to use. And it was government that put Jesus to death.
Property forfeiture laws?He warned us about seizure and forfeiture laws. “Beware of the scribes which …devour widows’ houses…. The same shall receive greater damnation.” (Luke 20:46-47) Jesus, too, was a victim. The soldiers, when they had crucified Jesus, took His garments, and made four parts, to every soldier a part. (John. 19:33)
What about the Drug War?Blessed are the peacemakers. (Matthew 5:9)
It was God who created cannabis hemp and told mankind to use “every green herb” on Earth. The Bible speaks of mercy, healing and a persecution of God’s children. They persecute me wrongfully; help thou me. (Psalms 119:86) Prisons and drug wars do not save souls. The Lord… hath sent me to bind up the broken hearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives and the opening of the prison to them that are bound. (Isaiah 61:1)
What should the ministry do?Teach God’s truth. Warn your congregation that the war on marijuana is unchristian and must be ended. My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge; because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, that you will be no priest to Me … for I desired mercy and not sacrifice. (Hosea 4:6, 6:6)
Remember: Every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused if it be received with thanksgiving…. If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine. (Paul: 1 Timothy 4:4-6)
Summary analysis of the foregoing discussion
What does the Bible say about marijuana? The Bible says that God created hemp for people to use “as meat,” (ie, to consume), that its seed oil is to be used as an ointment, and that cannabis is “to be received with thanks-giving of them which believe and know the truth.” Paul also warned that some people would “speak lies in hypocrisy” and prohibit us from using it.
It also says that we “shall not bear false witness” about people who use cannabis, nor judge them because that judgement is reserved to the Lord. The Lord hates those who speak lies and sow discord among brethern. For those people harrassed and imprisoned for using cannabis rightfuly, Jesus offers these words of comfort, “Blessed are those persecuted for righteousness’s sake: For theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven.”
What would Jesus do regarding medical marijuana?Despite common knowledge and widespread scientific support, the federal government has for nearly 30 years kept cannabis in schedule 1 as a deliberate way to deny patients access to medical marijuana. This includes people suffering from asthma, cancer, migraine headache, chronic pain, spasticity, glaucoma, arthritis, and provides relief for many other conditions. As a result, people at various locations across the USA have had to risk and suffer years in prison for providing medical marijuana to patients as an act of compassion and personal conscience. What would Jesus do? He chose to break the law in order to heal the sick.
“At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day through the corn, and his disciples were hungered, and began to pluck the ears of corn, and to eat. 2) But when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto him, Behold, thy disciples do that which is not lawful to do upon the sabbath day 3) But he said unto them, Have ye not read what David did, when he was hungered, and they that were with him? … 10) And, behold, there was a man which had his hand withered, And they asked him, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath days? that they might accuse him. 11) And he said unto them, What man shall there be among you, that shall have one sheep, and if it fall into a pit on the sabbath day, will he not lay hold on it and lift it out? 12) How much then is a man better than a sheep? Wherefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days. 13) Then saith he to the man, Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched it forth; and it was restored whole, like as the other. 14) Then the Pharisees went out, and held a council against him, how they might destroy him. 15) But when Jesus knew it, he withdrew himself from thence, and great multitudes followed him, and he healed them all; 16) And charged them that they should not make him known.” (Matthew 12: 1-2, 10-16) (also see Mark 3, Luke 13, John 9)
Should people give blind obedience to government?Then came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees, which were of Jerusalem, saying, 2) Why do thy disciple transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread.” 3) But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition? … 7) Ye hypocrites! … 12) Then came his disciples, and said unto him, Knowest thou that the Pharisees were offended, after they heard this saying? 13) But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up. 14) Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind, And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch. (Matthew 15:1-3, 7, 12-14)
Passages from the King James Bible that are relevant
to the legal and moral status of Cannabis sativa, L.And the earth brought forth grass and herb yielding seed after its kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good. (Genesis 1:12)
God said, “Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree in which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to everything that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.” And God saw everything that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day. (Gen. 1:29-31)
(No prohibition of cannabis or any other drug is made in the Ten Commandments: See Ex. 20:1-17)
(Cannabis is mentioned in Ex. 30:23 but King James mistranslated it as ‘sweet calamus’) :
Moreover, the Lord spake unto Moses, saying, 23 Take thou also unto thee principal spices, of pure myrrh five hundred shekels, and of sweet cinnamon half so much, even 250 shekels, and of qaneh-bosm [cannabis] 250 shekels, 24 And of cassia 500 shekels, after the shekel of the sanctuary, and of oil olive an hin: 25 And thou shalt make it an oil of holy anointment, an ointment compound after the art of the apothecary: it shall be an holy anointing oil. 26 And thous shalt anoint the tabernacle of the congregation therewith, and the ark of the testimony, 27 And the table and all his vessels, and the candlestick ahd his vessels, and the altar of incense, 28 And the altar of burnt offerings with all his vessels, and the laver and his foot. 29 And thou shalt sanctify them, that they may be most holy: whatsoever toucheth them shall be holy. (Exodus 30:22-29)* As one shekel equals approximately 16.37 grams, this means that the THC from over 9 pounds of flowering cannabis tops were extracted into a hind, about 6.5 litres of oil. The entheogenic effects of such a solution—even when applied topically -would undoubtedly have been intense.
He causeth the grass to grow for the cattle and herb for the service of man: that he may bring forth food out of the earth; And wine that maketh glad the heart of man and oil to make his face to shineth. (Psalm 104:14-15)
The Lord said unto me, “I will take my rest and I will consider in my dwelling place like a clear heat upon herbs, and like a cloud of dew in the heat of harvest. For afore the harvest, when the bud is perfect and the sour grape is ripening in the flower, he shall cut off the sprigs with pruning hooks and take away and cut down the branches. (Is. 18:4-5)
And I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they shall be no more consumed with hunger in the land, neither bear the shame of the heathen any more. (Ezekiel 34:29)
(Jesus:) “Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.” (Matt. 15:11)
One believeth that he may eat all things. Another…eateth herbs. … Let us not, therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumbling block or an occasion to fall in his brother’s way. I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth anything to be unclean, to him it is unclean. For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Ghost. (Epistle of St. Paul: Romans 14: 2,3,13,14,17)
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times, some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused if it be received with thanksgiving: For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer. If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine, whereupon thou hast attained. (Paul: 1 Timothy 4:1-6)
And he showed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielding her fruit every month; and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. (Rev. 22:1-2)
- Mark on 10/19 11:13 AM
JOSH.......get a girlfriend and stop smoking pot
- suZ on 10/19 03:29 PM
I would love it if Marijuana was legalized. Yes, to decrease the national debt thru taxes and yes, to add controls to distribution and yes, to reduce the risk to police and their families. But also ‘cause I miss it !!! its a really nice high when used in moderation (if memory serves). As an adult who is comfortable w/self moderation, I would like to have the right to use it lightly for social relaxation like I use a glass of wine now.
- cora on 10/19 08:13 PM
it’s a shame you go arrest them for marijuana and they will probably get 5 to 10 years but my father was killed by a drunk driver that had cocaine in the front seat and his girlfriends baby in the back he got unsupervised probation and i lose my fathers life now that sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- josh on 10/19 10:53 PM
MARK....i have 2 and no i will not. Its my right to smoke pot if i so choose just like it is everyone elses right to as well. I feel it is my right to fight for what i believe in and i dont sit idly by and let the government rule my life without voiceing my opinion and stating the FACTS which everyone should be informed of. So with that being said you can kiss my pot smoking *****
- Tom on 10/20 12:08 AM
let me see if I can clarify something these 2 people will most likely do 30 years apiece for getting caught. you see they are’nt just going to be charged w/ growing they will hit them with trafficing, intent to distribute(which are 2 different charges by the way even though they sound the same)and drug kingpin charges. in fact they will be lucky if they see the light of day ever again. however at least they have a chance. Some states have a manditory life sentence for growing pot w/ no chance for parole. These same states however let murderers and rapists and child molesters go within 10 years and that is in severe cases. It will only be when sheep like Mark wake up and notice our rights are slowly being bleed away that something might get done. GOD(OR WHOMEVER IS IN CHARGE) HELP US ALL. And most of you are right our biggest problem is alcohol cause I can assure you the next problem you have with someone intoxicated is’nt going to be someone high on pot it’s going to be some drunk dumb *****.
- TIM on 10/20 05:29 AM
JOSH, I WISH THAT ALL SMOKERS WOULD DONATE $1.00 TO HELP LEAGILIZE POT! I GO ALONG WITH EVERY THING YOU’VE SAID! MY WIFE WENT THROUGH THE HORROR OF BREAST CANCER AND WITHOUT POT SHE WOULD HAVE ALMOST DIED FROM NOT EATING AND STAYING SICK! JUST 1 HALF OF A JOINT AND SHE COULD EAT AND KEEP DOWN WHAT 20 PILLS THAT COST $1200.00 USED FOR NAUSEA FROM THE CHEMO TREATMENTS COULDN’T DO!!!!! EVERYONE SHOULD DO A LITTLE REASEARCH ON THEIR OWN ABOUT THE TRUTH ABOUT THE PLANT AND QUIT DRINGING THEIR BEERS AND POINTING THEIR FINGERS AT POT USERS, GROWERS,ETC… GO JOSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Jimmy on 10/20 11:11 AM
YOU GO JOSH!!!!! JOSH FOR PRESIDENT, GOD KNOWS THE 2 RUNNING NOW ARE NOT QUALIFIED!!!!
- CKB on 10/20 11:58 AM
I`m with you Jimmy!!!!!!!!!!!!You go Josh!!
- Jules on 10/20 02:27 PM
What is wrong with the world? Still punishing people for growing a plant from a seed right out of the dirt. America has the worst alcohol and drug problem and they focus on a plant. Marijuana is NOT a drug, plain and simple. I bet the majority of officers arresting people for weed are alcoholics on prescription drugs. Let’s deal with the REAL issues, shall we?
- JEFFERY MILLER on 10/21 02:53 PM
I wonder if they lived in the house as well, and how on earth did the police find out.
- Patriotic Veteran Pro-Traditional Family Christian on 10/22 05:07 AM
STAMP OUT ILLEGAL DRUGS, SAVE YOUR BRAIN FROM BURNOUT, AND LIVE A HEALTHIER EXTENDED LIFE!
Scientific and medical research has long proven that all mind polluting drugs including marijuana destroy your brain cells and impair your mental ability to function continually in your life.
Just look at the OBAMA NATION, the current presidential candidate who has bought into the failed Karl Marx Communist Maifesto policies to become the first real SOCIALIST-COMMUNIST to threaten our Democratic Republican form of government in the history of the United States.
The confessed drug user, OBAMA, has lost his ability to comprehend that socialistc answers to government problem-solving is just as false as his thinking that his earlier use of drugs would not harm his intellectual ability.
That may well be the reason OBAMA has chosen to self-rationalize the false theories of COMMUNISM with his personal participation and major financial support to Kenya, the country of his real family heritage. Apparently OBAMA loves Kenya and Marxist governments more than the nation in which he currently resides and which he so viciously tears down publicly by criticil public attacks.
OBAMA hopes his campaign allows him to gain power to destroy that free nation which has lifted him from oblivian as the product of multiple generations of marital infidelity, poligamy, and false religious beliefs in Islam and aetheism. His drug damaged mind keeps OBAMA from acknowledging how lucky he is to have lived in the United States and prevents him from protecting the economic Free Enterprise System from CHANGE.
The dangerous truth is that OBAMA is willing to sacrifice American traditional values and our freedoms in his destructive pursuit of a failed and unattainable COMMUNIST ideology. There is no doubt that his dysfunctional ancestrial background, his aetheistic mother, his lack of real self-idenity and his use of mind altering drugs have greatly influenced OBAMA to destroy that which has made him successful.
Clearly OBAMA thinks he is the annointed MESSIAH come to CHANGE the most influential and powerful nation in the world. Another sad truth is that OBAMA lacks the ability to fully understand the difference between the ineffective Socialist-Communist Marxist economic policies he proposes as opposed to the most sucessful Free Enterprise economic system the world has ever seen, built with freedom and individuality without undue government interference.
IF THIS IS THE BEST THE DRUG CULTURE AND THE HAITE AND ASHBURY DROPOUTS OF THE 1960’S HAVE PRODUCED, THEN MAY GOD SAVE THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
STAMP OUT ALL ILLEGAL DRUGS AND STOP COMMUNIST REBELLION!!!
- THE SENTINAL on 10/22 07:18 AM
There was greed,corruption,and hate long before John McCain,George Bush,or Barack Obama was born on this planet. If you want to know who is destroying the fabric of America read and listen to those who go far out of their way to condemn individuals,not the system of greed,for the down fall that have endured in the past and are enduring today. Today we have the biggest government interference of our private lives than at anytime in our history. It has come full circle in the last eight years culminating in the worst failure of an economic system in decades. Note! These are the corner stone principles that have evolved to culminate this collective failure. “Free Enterprise” “Individual” “No government interference” But use our money,government money ,to bailout greedy individual investors! So,If you a going to preach about being an American,and even if you don’t like hemp. Be american,be a patriot,and represent America by showing your fellow countrymen that your are intelligent enough to see and know the difference
- Tom on 10/22 10:28 AM
Dear Patriotic veteran pro-traditional family christian, first let me start by saying you must be a real hoot at “klan” rallies.Next I’d like to point out that we were disscussing the need for reform on cannibus laws “not all drugs”.I would like to further point out that we all know communism “or marxism” is a failing Government type because it puts the needs of the state over the needs of the individual,of couse you would know that if you tried reading books instead of burning them. Listen you moron if you had the slightest idea what patiotism was you woud know that it’s about loving your country enough to change the things that are wrong with it and doing something other than changing the subject when it does not suit your personal ideals or agenda. “by the way one of the main ideals of communism is the erradication of the use of all “intoxicating” drugs and ther users. Do’nt believe me look at china the answer to their drug problem was drag all drug users out into the street and shoot them. this worked well for about the length of time it took for them to turn their backs and move on to another pressing matter. “which was the elimination of religion in all forms"that did’nt work either. The funny part is you sound like a communist, and if you get what you want you can kiss “your” and my christian ideals good-bye."last note here “Christian” means to be forgiving and understanding not war mongering and afraid of your own shadow “because its black”.oh ya stay out of my disscussion unless you have something productive to say about the subject, pro or con."that means for or against”
- Graham on 10/22 11:59 AM
“legalize it, don’t criticize it”
- gowolfpack77 on 10/22 07:03 PM
The previous point for you weed-damaged drug addicts is that mind-altering drugs of any kind has a permanent negative and intelligence destroying effect on drug users. They then have a distorted view of reality, thier own situation and the world, and offer up ridiculous and radical ideas to CHANGE things.
That is exactly what drug user OBAMA has done and would try to do if he were president. He wants to CHANGE America so that it would not even resemble the great nation we have been for the last 232 years.
Keep in mind that we True Patriotic citizens believe in Individual Responsibility for the good of society by making our own living for ourselves through the Christian Work Ethic Principle which allows u to exist freely and independently. Granted we should all support getting justice against the Wall Street thieves, but you do not have to destroy the whole Free Enterprise system.
That would take away real opportunity for those honest and hard-working citizens who believe these values entitle us to control of our own money and to continue living our lives as True 17th Century Patriots, family builders and Christians.
Druggies do not like themselves nor anyone or anything else that opposes thier need to feed thier sick physical addiction. That is one reason they continue trying to destroy thier own minds and try to take down anything that is respectable with thier own self denial and frustration with the status quo.
Drug users will always seek CHANGE because nothing will ever satiate them no matter if they obtained thier false Utopian ideal called Communist Socialism and had 50 acres of pot growing in the open in hier bach yard. Then drugsters would start all over again whining and complaining that America should go back to Free Enterprise, but they would still not want to eercise thier right to use the necessary work ethic to be successful in society - SAME AS THEY ARE RIGHT NOW IN THE CURRENT FREE ENTERPRISE SYSTEM THEY HATE SO MUCH!
Therefore, in response to the original blog question and with the previous evidential reasoning, there should never be any form of legalize growing, processing, sales, distribution or use of marijuana or any other drugs in the United States without the licensed oversight of regulated pharmacy which would always be controlled for the health improvement of the patient!
As a respected and successful American who has lived honetly and with the hard work ethic, I for one hope we can erradicate illegal drugs and incarcerate those who are involved with them in any form. This nation did not become successful because citizens used drugs, but because of the sane people who adhered to the tenets and practices of HONESTY and HARD WORK PRINCIPLES which accompany thier beliefs in GOD, COUNTRY and FAMILY above selfish motives.
LEGALIZATION OF DRUGS INCLUDING MARIJUANA OR THE AVAILABILITY OF HEMP TO DRUGSTERS WOULD ONLY SEDATE THIER MINDS AND MAKE THOSE ADDICTED PEOPLE USELESS AND A DRAG ON SOCIETY AS MOST OF THEM ARE TODAY!!!
STOP MARIJUANA FIRST BECAUSE IT IS THE GATEWAY TO MORE AND MORE GRUG ADDICTION!!!BELIEVE THE SCIENTIC FACTS ABOUT ITS DESTRUCTIVENESS!!
- Graham on 10/23 09:25 AM
The real threat to America is Trans-fats. I hope all the advocates for the health of our country rally around this growing threat. Trans-fats are a gateway food and lead to binge eating, deep fried Twinkies and Thickburgers. If we don’t work together more and more people will become sedate and live in sloth and obesity.
Does anyone else here see the slippery slope that we are already on? America is the manifested destiny of many, many hard workers. They had a dream of building a great nation that allowed for freedom of choice, and limited government involvement in their affairs.
We have abandoned these ideals, and shamed our ancestors by allowing government to bully, and take with out questions our rights on the grounds of health and safety.
No matter if you are for or against marijuana, the abundance and prevalence in out culture and media makes evident that some portion of the people want it.
The issue needs to be brought up in every state, and put to a vote. Let the country have a referendum on what it wants. That’s the fair thing to do. That’s the American thing to do.
- Tom on 10/23 11:17 AM
hey gowolfpack77, just keep wearing red, pounding your beers at the tailgate party and do’nt forget to take your paxil klonopin cocktail and leave the rational and thoughtful disscussion to thinking people who ulilize facts instead of propaganda. you see if you had read more than the first couple of entries, you would have found out that we are not discussing politics here, but since you appear to be a sports fan I’m going to assume you have the attetion span of a gnat, I’ll forgive you and make this short. Hemp has verry little THC the active compound that gets you high which makes it useless as an intoxicant. So get your facts staight or stay out of the conversation the adults are having.
- gowolfpack77 on 10/24 03:29 AM
For you drug heads and pro-Obama anarchists such as Josh and Tom, allow me to tell you that you do not own this website. So stop addressing people far more knowledgeable than yourself with such arrogant disdain in an effort to intimidate and violate the first amendment rights of the more experienced, more wise and he who can not be intimidated.
Second, the topic under which these posts are placed deals with some outlaws who insist on violating our anti-drug laws in Norh Carolina and throughout the nation. If there ever was a political movement dealing with anything, it is the anarchist proposed government of Barack Hussein Obama who is the most dangerous drug user and terrorist-connected presidential candidate in the history of this nation right now.
If you can not understand the connection between the lead topic article over these posts to the comments you can not defend, perhaps it is because you deluded drug, marijuana and hemp promoters are suffering from your own drug induced brain damage and you need to lay off the weed and learn to read and better comprehend written documents.
Then you will be able to see the lack of current discernment and judgement you show in saying that God’s future kingdom of Heaven will allow marijuana as the special plant referenced.
Maybe you did not realize the chapter and verse Josh quotes is part of Christian prophecy as to describe the place in God’s future Kingdom of Heaven. That future kingdom will be set up right here on this planet after God destroys all the marijuana along with all outlaws, the wicked, the unbelievers and the unrighteous who violate God’s law and who fail to “render unto Ceasar that which is Ceasar’s” as God has commanded.
The scripture that Josh used has absolutely no relationship to the world today and if Josh is using God’s Word in vain and to promote his addiction to drugs, he will answer directly to God for such heresy.
So Tom, spend more time and effort in presenting your own comments and try to find a way to defend your own postion instead of violating someone’s Civil Rights.
Leave your anarchy to the other extreme leftists, the Socialists and Communists who are the most prolific users and promoters of anarchy by worshiping illegal mind-control agents and trying to silence the sober and healthy proponents of informed speech and political action.
Take heart and learn by seeking truth instead of your own destructive self-interest. Start by seeing the truth about BHO.
- Graham on 10/24 09:31 AM
Thank god you came back woldpack! For a second, I thought this thread might end without some one pig-headedly inserting religious scripture and PERSONAL beliefs to “win” the point.
To your credit, it is your right as an American to say such things. Unfortunately, Religion does not belong in government issues and is rarely admissible in legal proceedings because it is tantamount to “My invisible friend said so”.
First let me quickly address you misconceptions of Obama. He has admitted to smoking pot. Current president GW Bush, and former President Bill Clinton have also admitted to committing the same crime. So Obama at the moment is on par with the course.
I could labor on and find all the necessary links to prove beyond doubt that Obama is a proud American who is not a Muslim or a terrorist. However I will not because these facts have been parade throughout the media for the pas 22 months. If you haven’t picked up on them by now then you clearly are indoctrinated by fear of anything that isn’t white and old.
I know that is a gross generalization. I’m not trying to offend you, I’m just commenting on what I have observed. Your emphasis on Obama’s middle name being Hussein as an indicator of terrorism is grossly misinformed. It is equivalent to me saying anyone with the last name smith is a middle class male with 2.5 children at home.
I like to think that I am a man who can empathize and relate to everyone. Since it is clear that scripture is something you hold value in and can relate to let me leave you with some.
The hemp plant (scientific name: cannabis, slang: marijuana) is one of the many useful herbs “yielding seed after its kind” created and blessed by God on the third day of creation, “and God saw that it was good.” (Genesis 1:12) He gave hemp for people to use with our free will.
God said, “Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed which is upon the face of all the earth.…To you it will be for meat.” … And God saw everything that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. (Genesis 1:29-31)
The Bible predicts some herb’s prohibition. “Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times, some shall … speak lies in hypocrisy … commanding to abstain from meats which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. (Paul: 1 Timothy 4:1-3)
The Bible speaks of a special plant. “I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they shall be no more consumed with hunger in the land, neither bear the shame of the heathen any more.” (Ezekiel 34:29) A healing plant. On either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare 12 manner of fruits, and yielding her fruit every month; and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. (Revelations 22:1-2) A gift from God.
Finally, since Marijuana is proven to have medical uses:
“Lord, when did we see thee sick or in prison and came unto thee?” And the King will answer and say unto them, “Verily I say unto you, inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethern, ye have done it unto me.”—Matthew 25:39-40
- Archie on 10/27 04:36 PM
Josh:
First off, Thank you very much for doing the research, or already knowing about Hemp. Hooever, the hemp you highlight IS NOT the hemp/MJ one would smoke, unless one has VERY hardy lungs and throat. The hemp you cite is also the same type of hemp that grows wild(along side of many major highways) in Kansas and other Middle America states. When I was stationed at Ft. Riley, Kansas it was not unusual at all for some newby to go out and “harvest” this type of hemp and bring back several stuffed duffle bags to the company area: unfortunately for him, there were no toke takers, except for the novice! As a former MJ smoker, acid taker and other “things” I can honestly say this. Persons who do drugs long term have no idea when their reflexes are slowing down, and other coordination problems. When you speak to a marijuana user about quiting/problems related to it’s the same thing as asking an alcoholic if he has a drinking problem. There are many, many MJ users who are now full-time lawyers, doctors, dentists, etc....it’s an “equal opportunity” drug that crosses all social lines.....and destroys as it goes along. In the same venue, if you will, the Hippies of yesteryear are now running local governments, drilling your teeth, and most importantly, working on the jet engines of the airliner you’re sitting in! Get my point? A lot of former Hippies are now Democrats who still believe that music, sit-ins and Liberlism can solve all of the world’s problems...WOW! If you have any relatives in Canada, ask them how long they have to wait to see a doctor, in Canada’s Liberal, Socialistic Health-care system. Sorry Charlie, I don’t want to legalize the stuff, then the NEA would really go to pot! For all reading this who are still using(anything), take my advice, don’t use anything, including alcohol, for 4 to 6 weeks, then see the revelation! WOW! Finally, you’ll see(hopefully) the total picture.
- gowolfpack77 on 10/28 06:27 AM
Josh:
Please relook at the scriptures you used below. I want to note that you are taking each one out of context. And scriptures interpreted out of context are just pretexts to make a point that is untrue.
Actually these scriptures are prophecies of something that will occur in the new world or Heaven as clearly described in the Book of Revelation (i.e. the Revelation of Jesus Christ).
As a person who has done very extensive studies of Bible propecy and God’s instruction on clean eating habits, allow me to say that God will never encourage nor condone the use of any stimulants or suppressants which affect our mental processes, to include the intake use of marijuana. God created man with a perfect brain to utilize for the purpose of clear thinking and awareness of life, utilizing the 5 natural senses without anything to onfuse us of reality.
{The Bible speaks of a special plant. “I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they shall be no more consumed with hunger in the land, neither bear the shame of the heathen any more.” (Ezekiel 34:29) A healing plant. On either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare 12 manner of fruits, and yielding her fruit every month; and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. (Revelations 22:1-2) A gift from God.}
- josh on 10/28 07:08 AM
Look i made my point already, we all deserve the right to do what we ourselves choose to do without fear of persecution and prosecution. Everyone on here makes points that are great in their own opinion but let the people reading decide for themselves which side they stand on. Im not telling anyone to smoke pot but I am completely for the legalization of Cannabis. We are already well on our way to seeing that reality. Id like to say thank you to Alaska, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Maine, Nevada, Oregon, and Washington for taking the first step in this process.
and for gowolfpack i just have one thing to say to you.....GO TAR HEELS, better than you in every way.
- josh on 10/28 07:30 AM
What you refer to is at the end of the bible but what you keep failing to mention is the beginning.
God said, “Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed which is upon the face of all the earth.…To you it will be for meat.” … And God saw everything that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. (Genesis 1:29-31)
The Bible predicts some herb’s prohibition. “Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times, some shall … speak lies in hypocrisy … commanding to abstain from meats which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. (Paul: 1 Timothy 4:1-3)
You need not reply to anything about the bible until you can explain to us why God is wrong because apparently thats why you believe. God created it and said it was good and to be used as meat. Im doing what the lord says and you are only arguing with him and his word because you sir are a hypocrite. You want to spout off like you are God and you wrote the bible and know everything about it...well you dont and there is no man living on this Earth who does. Ive only found good things about the Cannabis plant in the bible, never have I seen anything detrimental about it. So continue on with you’re rants about you know this and that about the bible and ill be enjoying gods gifts to all of us.
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- Denise on 10/29 04:17 AM
id like to start by saying i agree with the fact that its a personal choice to smoke a joint when you please, me myself i would much rather pass a driver on the road smokins pot then drinking alcohol. and Josh you go boyfriend say what you think i agree with you 100% so if you want roll another joint if you other people dont want it leave it alone thats just more for us that do!!!
- josh on 11/04 02:56 PM
Thats right Denise, thanks for voicing your opinion and isnt it great that the people for pot outweigh the people against? I definately think so and ill leave you with these lyrics by a great man, he once sang....i smoke 2 joints in the morning, i smoke 2 joints at night, i smoke 2 joints in the afternoon it makes me feel alright, i smoke 2 joints in time of peace and 2 in time of war, i smoke 2 joints before i smoke 2 joints and then i smoke 2 more
- TIM S. BOWLES on 11/06 04:25 AM
I say instead of all this unreal bickering let’s all roll two and give one to the non- smokers and smoke to our new President Obama that the American people voted in and you good ole boys can turn up your beers and burn one (but for God sake hide your keys, don’t get on the road) just sit back and think of how the Nation is going be in 4yrs. Ponder these thoughts instead of worring about a plant that has NEVER CAUSED A DEATH, JUST MADE PEOPLE LAUGH AND SOME FEEL BETTER AND JUST GET ALONG!


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